I am not the identity
What to do with Thoughts?
It has been asked why there has been such little post here. Quite simply I am busy in correspondences that are not for this list (and website design). But here I offer one recent conversation. It is not too personal, esoteric or advanced.
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I know that I am not the identity and everything that comprises it. This is my direct experience.
It is good to tune into bliss. Sometimes it is good to allow whatever is there, as chasing bliss is tiring and that can lead to a loss of energy.
I don't chose which thoughts will be there but choose which ones to express.
The difference is that you seem to put a lot of energy into thinking as if it really matters to you. That is only a impression. Is it true? I tend to not care what I think, though I am playing around with being more in the Mind at the moment. It isn't fun but it is interesting. It's just variety really.
I am considering that there might be such a thing as an 'enlightened lifestyle'...but this is in the early stages.
PS For me thoughts just naturally go. If you unattach them yourself then isn't that an effort? So are you doing it? 'No thought is a happy state' I agree but it can become a bit of a binding rule, there is also bliss alongside thoughts. They are not the problem. It's stickiness. If they pass thru then there is problem at all.
Dear Oshana, Most days I spend some time unattaching thoughts, not activating thoughts, checking in. Activities that lead me to natural happiness. I seem to have a choice on whether thoughts are there or not. I do not want the thoughts that create bad feelings and promote further thoughts and lead to heaviness. No thought is a happy state. A self help book is there.
My question to you is what is it like to be Oshana? I have wanted to ask you this for a long time. I started to ask you when you were cooking at our place when your son was here.
You tell us you think and have feelings. And I have observed you censor these to appropriate situations. You are in the same way as me choosing which thoughts are to be there or none at all. So I wonder what is the difference between you and me?
When I am around you alot of the time the choosing is not needed for me. Somehow your presence seems to do the choosing for me. Same was the case for me with Papaji. I assume this is the function of the Teacher.
D.... says that he has a similar thing when he is with me. That I understand to be that my main interest is in being-ness and truth and this leads in him to the same concern. I am not doing anything other than what I usually do..I do not think you are doing anything. Are you?
Do you have any idea what is happening?
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